Posted: May 04, 2005 By: FRANK REGINALD WALL

Subject: Confiscatory Property Tax & IRS Conflict with

Comment:
Copy of forwarded message to CNBC Squawk Box Editors, originally sent to Fox News Channel and Fundamental Tax Reform e-Groups and sent with attachment of Second Request for Testimony to Tax Panel (on 29 April, 2005)



My thoughts below and the attached testimony to the President’s Tax Reform Panel should be adequate for a “squawk” response. You will find direct contact data following the forwarded comments. Thanks for asking



Frank R. Wall

- Athol, Idaho USA



-----Original Message-----
From: NO-IRS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NO-IRS@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of FRANK R. WALL
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:25 AM – [Original Testimony sent prior to April 29th Deadline]
To: FAIRTAX_DD@yahoogroups.com; 'Presidential Tax REFORM Commission - Panel Members - Comments[in-lieu-of/appending prior 'time-sensitive' testimony]'
Cc: 'ID_Fair Tax e-Group'; 'GA_FairTax e-Group'; 'Phil Hinson, Business Development CPA - Atlanta,GA'; 'Frank R. Wall - ECO Star Energy Systems ™/tm/sm (ESHNW)'; 'NO-IRS'; 'Fox News Channel - Presidential Tax Reform Panel Inputs...'
Subject: [NO-IRS] RE: [FAIRTAX_DD] RE: Land and FairTax (resubmit testimony ascomments for general distribution)...
Importance: High





To Whom It May Concern: — Presidential Tax REFORM Commission – Panel members…



APPENDED TESTIMONY – COMMENTS follow and attached (of Statement 4/29/05)



Re: according to http://www.taxreformpanel.gov/comments/index.shtml >> then transferred to … http://comments.taxreformpanel.gov/ >> then checking for posted testimony or new comments http://comments.taxreformpanel.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Home.ViewList >> “OPEN FOR COMMENT” [note that "bounces" and receipt of request to resubmit by the Tax Panel using "web mail" at www.taxreformpanel.gov]



Please be advised that several years ago a Washington (STATE) county refused to allow the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) attach a levy (lien) on a property-holder’s (“real property”) asset. – Reason being, to do so would interfere with the Respected County’s revenue-stream (tax base) by “subverting, compromising and otherwise constraining” the “resident” property-holder’s (local/state taxpayer) ability to “produce” or “be productive” (income/wages, etc.) and thereby by “cause and effect” not only injure the property-holder (“real property”) but also (multiplied over and over) would cause the Respected County injury and discontinuity of local tax revenue… – Now this makes sense!



This was reported in a conservative Northwest news article that received wide (but the usual suppressed) national coverage. -- More property holders of “real property” should remind their county board of commissioners (only 3,000 plus counties times 3 to 7 elected—accountable citizens per county … actual “public servants” in the real sense as compared to puffed-up ‘Congress-critters’), “that the IRS is an alien or foreign entity (out of the District of Columbia) that has absolutely NO authority or ‘Constitutional Jurisdiction’ within or around (the respective State[s]) that said property-holder’s (“real property”) asset… ABSOLUTELY NO JURISDICTION, PERIOD!” – Please recognize and be further advised (yes “advised”) that this is not intended to derail justice but rather effect truth and JUSTICE.



If an act by anyone or any entity (such as government) “sears the conscience” of a reasonable person as being unjust, then regardless of how it is otherwise packaged or allegedly justified, it is wrong, unfair and unjust!



It is my understanding that even though the deadline for testimony (2nd call) is past, according to your website, you are still taking comments. I am submitting my testimony and comments as a sovereign citizen of the U.S. but also recognize that I am a small business owner involved in several high-technology “start-ups” that are start-ups due to the IRS and the income tax interfering with my previous business as a consultant in the aerospace industry. – This has cost me a considerable loss in every way; therefore I retain all my rights as an “individual” citizen.



The late Senator Moynihan [sic] was pressed by contract service firms (only agents) such as Butler, Consultants & Designers, etc. (a conspiracy of ‘job shops’) to put in a provision in the Black Lung Act amending the so-called “Tax Reform Act of 1986” (a real joke by Congress on the American taxpayer) and that excluded engineers and computer technicians from the “safe harbor” provisions of the income tax code, meaning “NO” IRS form 1099’s and NO “independent contractors” -- just captive employees! – Now, I have operated (sometimes concurrently) as a sole proprietor, corporate official, partner, independent contractor, employee, etc. – For work, I’ve even considered my raising the “Jolly Roger” flag! Maybe by doing so, I would be assured that the IRS would not play their insidious, regressive games and manipulations to disfranchise my proprietorship, my security and my “inalienable rights.”



Respectfully re-submitted,



FRANK WALL



Frank R. Wall — President & COO

ECO Star Energy Systems LLC ™/SM

Energy Star® Kennels™

– 8613 East Cessna Lane / Hackney Airpark –

P.O. Box 1000 / Athol, Idaho 83801-1000

(208) 683-7000 / CELL (208) 818-4288 – USA

— E-mail: < frankwall@mindspring.com >



Copyright © 2005, by Frank R. Wall

-- All Rights Reserved (UCC, et al.) –



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Has the income tax (IT) code gone asymptotic (ballistic), and is its eventual pathology—demise unrecoverable?



Prediction: Collapse of the income-tax code – under its own weight around 2010 AND Congress’ inability to “change their ways!” (copy and paste link in URL address window)








Washington in Depth… (Reported on Fox News Channel April 18, 2005) –

SSA did not brief the White House on most recent poll:

http://www..grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/11419191.htm —> http://wid.ap.org/documents/socialsecurity.html:

Clinton-era SSA poll - http://wid.ap.org/documents/survey99.pdf
Similar 2000-01 poll - http://wid.ap.org/documents/survey01.pdf
2003 SSI/SSA survey - http://wid.ap.org/documents/survey03.pdf
Social Security Administration (SSA) -- http://www.ssa.gov/


Energy Resources:

http://www.buildingscience.com/resources/mold/Read_This_Before_You_Design_Build_or_Renovate.pdf



Web: www.idahoenergystar.com – www.energy.idaho.gov … (.Idaho E-Star Forms.):

— http://www.idahoenergystar.com/forms/2BasicNWBOPForm.pdf

Web: www.NorthwestENERGYSTAR.com – www.nwalliance.org

Web: www.EnergyStar.gov – www.energycodes.gov … (.RESCHECK.)…



Empowerment Resources:



http://www.geocities.......com/cmcofer/intro.html – http://www.geocities.com/cmcofer



Web: www.FairTax.org –

Web: www.SalesTax.org –

Web: www.myfairtax.org …



Congress members savor perk of a lifetime

— Published in the Home News Tribune 03/21/05 http://www.thnt.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050321/NEWS/503210381&SearchID=73204158542294





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"The current tax code is a daily mugging." - Ronald Reagan

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-----Original Message-----
From: FAIRTAX_DD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FAIRTAX_DD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harvey Abernethy
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:35 AM
To: FairTaxSupportPA@aol.com
Cc: FAIRTAX_DD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FAIRTAX_DD] RE: Land and FairTax



Marlene,

The legislation is clear when it defines a consumer purchase. You are only a consumer when you are purchasing for person consumption. If you buy real estate for an investment, speculation, commercial or business us, that is NOT for personal consumption.

As to commission or any type of "service" rendered, it matters not what any one calls it. If you are purchasing a "service" from a provider for any purpose that is NOT for personal consumption, it is NOT taxed. If it is for
your personal consumption, which in the case of real estate can only be a persons personal home, it is taxed. The provider of the "Service" is the party responsible for collecting the tax and remitting it. No different from the way business works today, except instead of the "service" provider filing an income tax return they will be required to file a sales tax return.

Another example: You go to an attorney to have him draw your personal Will. That is a personal consumer "service" purchase and is taxed. Go to the same attorney have and have him draw up a new business agreement or a contract to buy an investment piece of property and that "service' is NOT taxed because it is not for personal consumption.

Harvey Abernethy



-----Original Message-----
From: FairTaxSupportPA@aol.com [mailto:FairTaxSupportPA@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 12:02 PM
To: h.abernethy@worldnet.att.net
Cc: FairTaxSupportPA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Land and FairTax

In a message dated 4/30/05 9:13:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, h.abernethy@worldnet.att.net writes:




<< I agree, but that is the interpretation of the Legislation by Linder's people and David Burton, one of the writers of the legislation.

Harvey
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What Mr. Burton's interpreation is means nothing, what the bill actually says and what the courts and the legislators interpret the words to mean [is, “what is important?”] I suspect that the land issue as well as "commissions" vs. service [issue will] be at the heart of the debate. Should fairtax be passed, these
areas will be the heart of the tax "loopholes" and/or trouble for many.

If commissions are not taxed, then loopholers would simply need to redefine most services as commissions. I doubt this will happen, but ultimately who's responsibility to collect the tax will be in debate, as more companies put
people on "freelance" or "independent" that deal in services, lawn cutters, maids, [chauffeurs,] contractors, etc etc, and call their salaries simply their "commission". 1000's even millions of independent sales tax collectors
will be formed. What a mess.

If land speculation IS to be taxed (which is what buying land without a house for what ever reason, then selling it without a house amounts to), then those who currently own land for speculation will scream they are being cheated
by FairTax as they will lose value off their land if a sales tax (which is NOT currently built into the price) will suddenly cause the price to skyrocket 30% at sale. Any reduction in price of land first time out of the box will have to come out of their pockets directly. And believe me, lots of big money is in land speculation...can you say Bill Gates who may have as much as 50% of all his money in land?

Marlene Tobin
PA State Director (from McMurray PA)
Americans for FairTaxation (Fairtax.org) -AFFT
marlene@pafairtax.org or fairtaxsupportpa@aol.com
www.pafairtax.org
[Phone:] 724-942-7623



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