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1 as possible.
2 MS. MAZZUCA: Any more feelings?
3 Are we saying we should stick with the -- I am
4 not sure we can eliminate or would like to
5 eliminate the government. That's how we get
6 the resources, how the resources are allocated
7 as well as local and federal control.
8 MR. HANNA: Charles was talking
9 about state groups and that kind of thing.
10 That's part of --
11 MS. MAZZUCA: That's where we see
12 our action.
13 This group will be charged with
14 making policy recommendations.
15 MR. PARET: I don't think we can
16 eliminate it. It is a critical player.
17 MR. HERNANDEZ: Do we agree on the
18 four committees we have put into the table
19 here? I think somebody has a motion, and
20 discuss it, change it.
21 One of the things I was
22 suggesting, we take a look at the one that

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1 would say functional family and say functional
2 family, look at the children as the center,
3 includes the children's problem and the family
4 environment in which he is. With that, then,
5 I agree with these four committees.
6 MR. HANNA: We have a motion that
7 we divide into those committees.
8 (Motion seconded.)
9 MR. CANCHOLA: For the record.
10 MS. MAZZUCA: For the record, we
11 will divide into committees. The family but
12 focussing on the child as the center of the
13 family. The educator, the education system.
14 Government resources. And community
15 partnerships.
16 DR. GONZALEZ: Madam Chair, if I
17 could, committee is a nice word but what about
18 working group?
19 MR. HANNA: Any discussion on
20 that? All in favor? All opposed?
21 (Measure accepted.)
22 MS. MAZZUCA: Next task will be

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1 creating our areas of interest so we can begin
2 to detail who is going to be on what.
3 We also talked about the fact that
4 someone might be very passionate and might
5 want to work on two committees. We are
6 concerned about our time. Again, part of what
7 we need to do is be well read and versed so we
8 are not reinventing the wheel. If someone
9 really, really wants to work on two
10 committees, that would be okay. But we want
11 at least everybody to be on one committee.
12 MR. HANNA: Obviously, there is
13 two ways we can go about this. One is to get
14 assigned. The other is to volunteer. Let's
15 go with the volunteering to begin with and see
16 how we kind of divide up, see if we have a
17 good mix.
18 MS. SANCHEZ: Do you want to
19 brainstorm a little bit about the criteria,
20 maybe what would you like to find in each of
21 those subcommittees? Or do you want to break
22 first?

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1 MR. HANNA: I think part of it is,
2 Leslie, if you have input, I know people are
3 going to bring different perspectives. If
4 somebody is interested in -- for instance, I
5 will pick on Charles, since he is not here.
6 If Charles were on the government committee,
7 he might have an idea of the state groups that
8 he mentioned that no one else will be thinking
9 about. I think when the committee gets
10 together, say, look, this is the thing that is
11 really driving me. If you have some thoughts
12 on that, why don't you --
13 MS. SANCHEZ: You can do it either
14 way. You can sit here and kind of lightly
15 discuss each one and kind of generate ideas,
16 and we will synthesize that, just give it a
17 framework for each committee, or the committee
18 can meet, subcommittee, working group, meet
19 among itself, come up with that and present it
20 to the committee as a whole.
21 MS. ALVAREZ: For the essence of
22 time.

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1 MR. HANNA: Mr. Paret, do you want
2 to start in terms of which one you might --
3 MR. PARET: Thank you.
4 MS. SCHOFIELD: Can I suggest we
5 get a first and second choice, as I am the
6 last one? Someone will always be last. That
7 allows us at least to have --
8 MR. PARET: From my perspective,
9 probably community partnerships would be a
10 natural interest. So that will probably be my
11 first choice.
12 Government resources slash
13 accountability will be probably number two.
14 DR. VASQUEZ: Can we say
15 government first, and programs second?
16 DR. GONZALEZ: I think given my
17 expertise. Higher ed group. Education
18 system. And the second I think would be
19 community partnerships.
20 MR. CANCHOLA: Government.
21 MS. ALVAREZ: Given my lack of
22 expertise in the education field, I will go

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1 with the family. Second choice I think would
2 be government.
3 MS. MAZZUCA: How about your
4 second choice?
5 MR. CANCHOLA: Community.
6 MR. HERNANDEZ: I could say
7 community, and family. Whichever way.
8 MS. BOSCH: Family and community.
9 Family first.
10 MS. RAMOS: Government resources
11 first and then I am kind of option between
12 family and community partnerships depending on
13 how the committees are laying out.
14 REV. HOYOS: I would say my first
15 choice would be family and second one will be
16 faith community.
17 MR. ESCALANTE: Teachers and
18 family.
19 MS. SCHOFIELD: I am not real
20 strong in family. That has been one of my
21 frustrations, empowering families and parents
22 into the educational system. So that would be

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1 my first. But education will be my second.
2 But I also think it is important to have maybe
3 an elementary person in the education group.
4 So I am very open to what would fit the work
5 groups.
6 MR. BARBIC: Education and family
7 but I will do anything but government,
8 honestly.
9 MS. SANCHEZ: There is so much
10 crossover between education and the family
11 component.
12 MR. HERNANDEZ: There is a lot of
13 cross. What it says here is all of the
14 working groups have to work real closely
15 together. We all have to work together.
16 MR. HANNA: That is where I think
17 Pat and I will be facilitating that, and
18 Leslie's office will be a tremendous help, I
19 think.
20 MR. HERNANDEZ: Can you assign
21 Charles as government?
22 MR. HANNA: No, with first choices

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1 we are pretty evenly split. We have three,
2 four, two and three. And Pat --
3 MS. MAZZUCA: I am flexible. I
4 also feel like what I least know about is what
5 I really would like to work on.
6 MR. HANNA: Given the makeup right
7 now, we can contact Charles and find out,
8 because I don't think, other than -- family we
9 probably -- we have four right now. That is
10 probably sufficient there. But I think either
11 one of the others, they will be able to --
12 MS. BOSCH: We have one missing.
13 Norma is not here.
14 MR. HANNA: There will be
17 of
15 us. There will be five on one committee. We
16 are not up to that number yet. Whichever one
17 Norma --
18 MS. MAZZUCA: Again, remembering
19 that we may have additional members at that
20 point in time. Fabulous.
21 MR. HANNA: Let me pass this out.
22 This was produced by Leslie's office. This

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1 will give us an idea of possibilities. Right?
2 MS. SANCHEZ: We can also have two
3 subcommittees meet in their cities. So much
4 between educators.
5 MR. HANNA: What this fits into,
6 gang, is another sheet that will come along, a
7 sort of breakdown of the current budget and
8 how these meetings might be taken care of by
9 this budget. It is a little confusing the way
10 I am passing this out.
11 By the way, I do think it would
12 be, as part of the creativity that we were
13 talking about, for us to be thinking
14 creatively about these meetings and, again,
15 how we can liaise with the White House
16 Initiative Office for other things that may be
17 going on that we can again tag onto. Because
18 that, then, allows us to, maybe, have more
19 possibilities than our budget would otherwise
20 indicate.
21 MS. SANCHEZ: Are there any more
22 on the budget ones?

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1 MR. HANNA: Yes. Do you need some
2 over there?
3 MS. RAMOS: One thing we never
4 talked about, I don't know exactly where it
5 would fall in but I would like to make sure we
6 keep in mind the Head Start program. I have
7 worked with that for a number of years. Whose
8 figures was it, yesterday, five years old? I
9 hope we can somehow keep in mind those key
10 education programs because of the way they
11 will steer children. Head Start, you will
12 find a lot of those kids will go on and finish
13 school, even at that young age.
14 MS. BOSCH: Leslie, you had
15 mentioned visiting schools. Is that
16 everybody?
17 MS. SANCHEZ: It will fall within
18 the categories. It will fall -- I am going to
19 several different schools. I will call
20 anybody who is within the region, over in
21 Washington State. Oregon. I am in California
22 a lot. I may be calling upon you to visit the

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1 schools with us. We can also independently
2 facilitate something like that if we want to,
3 as part of the commission, work with the best
4 practices. I can help you identify schools
5 and help set that up, as well. We are going
6 to be calling upon you a tremendous amount,
7 not only as ambassadors but we will be getting
8 you a lot of that information so you are
9 really up to speed on what the administration
10 is doing in terms of education, business,
11 voluntarism. That's a big area, as well.
12 MS. MAZZUCA: The publications
13 that Charles referred to, also, it is
14 important for us to really know what the state
15 of the art is. Before we can figure out what
16 is really working, we want to say where is the
17 research on what didn't work, why didn't it
18 work, also. There is rationale. Will you
19 help us get a list of --
20 MS. SANCHEZ: We will send them to
21 all of you this week.
22 DR. VAZQUEZ: Are we going to

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1 select a leader for each working group?
2 MR. HANNA: We did talk about
3 that. The thought we concluded with, although
4 we are open to suggestion here, was that
5 within the group it might be best --
6 DR. VASQUEZ: We should do it
7 before we leave today.
8 MR. HANNA: Yes. I think we can
9 do that. We can actually break in a few
10 minutes and try to do that. Let's think
11 about -- I apologize that we are kind of
12 hurried here. The first objective of our
13 first meeting was an orientation, which is
14 what we spent most of the time yesterday
15 doing. In terms of what we do need to leave
16 here with, part of it is our next meeting.
17 Dividing into committees. I think it is a
18 good idea to decide who will share that
19 working group so that person could kind of be
20 pulling things together. In our next meeting.
21 Leslie, do we have any
22 proposals for --

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1 MS. SANCHEZ: The proposal would
2 be the committee convenes again sooner rather
3 than later. Perhaps the end of March time
4 frame in Las Vegas.
5 MR. HANNA: Although this is May.
6 MS. SANCHEZ: I am thinking to get
7 everybody together.
8 MR. HANNA: Let people know what
9 your thinking is.
10 MS. SANCHEZ: The committee can
11 break down into separate subcommittees,
12 working groups, which can go have town hall
13 meetings, facilitate, for example, the
14 Hispanic Scholarship Fund. Augment our
15 resources. Have several hundred people coming
16 in. We can do plenary sessions, as well, and
17 find best practices, invite certain
18 individuals to speak. We can facilitate that.
19 You could do a tour of the city that has
20 certain things or a three city area tour.
21 There is a variety of different ways that the
22 working groups can gather their information.

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